we know what's going on with the nsa. what about the chinese, other governments who infiltrated parts of our computer systems already gaining access to my family's health care? we don't have safety mechanisms in place yet as far as i understand. >> you're absolutely right. maybe they are not safe today. no system is unhackable. every system can be penetrated. so when i hear terms like never been done before and one-stop shop, the first thing i think about is, it's a one-stop shop for hackers. it is hacker's haven. we've made it simple. they can go to one place. >> inspector general, we're not getting time lines, no ready when they roll this out to test this. your advice on keeping it secure. if this was a business, our government was run like a private business, how would you advise them to keep it safe? >> we faced this with companies all the time and i faced it as a ceo. it's not uncommon for dates to slip ann business like this. if this were a business, i would say, get the tessing team in here and ask them, would you